Dating owens illinois

Plus, there is another aspect to this we need to keep in mind. And as far as I know, 7up still stands as the earliest acl (Owens-Illinois) bottles ever produced anywhere. you are not the only one who is pulling their hair out over this. Lol [: D] Bob, Just to clear up one tiny thing before I move on.

Which is that some of the research done involves connecting the dots to the various histories of the bottlers themselves. Regarding your 1935 Seven Up bottle..pair of statements that you can make about this bottle still hold true regardless of the presence of the dot. While Lockhart has a letter offering alternative meaning to the dot mystery and physical evidence showing both no-dot and dotted versions of his 1940 shards, he plows on even through these pair of refutations to his hypothesis. How could he not have found any bottles before 1940 with dots? Three more refutations to the dot as a dating icon.

There is room to grow and learn, BEGINNING here and not by STAYING here.

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This is a huge problem all of us have in trying to decipher bottle history..of us has the resources to examine the quantities of bottles to give us a base of information...empirical data, if you will.

In this area, I have been carefully observing and logging data from O/I bottles since my stroke (late Aug).

Take for example the amber 7up bottle in question, which, by the way, is a "no-dot" 5 and not a "dotted" 5 as you indicated in your post. One: In beginning the research I wanted to find a quantity of bottles to establish a base line of information.

But irregardless of that, it has been fully established that the San Diego version of this particular bottle was only made during a two year period ... This was determined by a local researcher I met once who did some extensive history research on our local 7up bottler. All things considered, I say again that I agree with you 100% and that more research in this area is needed, and that it will be individuals like yourself and others who will eventually crack the code. All I needed was a quantity of a brand spread over many years in order to find the commonalities, and the differences, on the bottle bases. The bottlers convention set was the perfect answer.

He fails to mention how large a sampling he observed. That's okay...it's often where research actually begins. The 1935 Seven Up bottle that you show is marked with a five-dot.

From looking at this one sample you could make one of two statements about the bottle from information on the bottom. ALL Seven Up bottles from this bottler are marked with a five-dot. SOME Seven Up bottles from this bottler are marked with a five-dot.I own 20 of the first 21 of them and they meet the criteria.The share common manufacture plant, common G-137 numbers , all have Duraglass, all have two digit date codes and all fall well after the 'early' years. There is no argument that these bottles were produced during 1937 and as all of mine were and are indicated with a 7 in the date code slot. I must assume at this point that the 7 is the dating device and the dot is not a dating code.As I understand, upon examining one, and only one sample, you can only make Statement 2.Making Statement 1 would require you to observe dozens, if not hundreds of like bottles from that same Seven Up bottler. You cannot hold up a sample of one and state that all must be like your sample. So I guess this means you won't be contacting me for additional information from the book. because I usually charge a penny per word for that service. [: D] Thanks again, SPBOB I just read Lockhart's monograph on Owens Illinois bottles for the first time.

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